freemason wilbur ross, a well-connected banking tycoon with strong ties to the rothschild family has just bid on some watchtower buildings in brooklyn... is the watchtower returning assets to their mother organization?.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/ross_for_jehovah_witnesses_bldgs_komlwtyitfqj3e0ly5fsmk.
also, please view this fairly recent interview with forbes magazine... seems carefully scripted on both ends.... http://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyabenedicto/2011/01/31/wilbur-ross-on-the-economy/.
A very good friend of mine is a Mason, as he says the only place in town where the beer is cheaper is at the Conservative Club.
Exactly...they are not the Masons that are being discussed here. Those are just social clubs. My father also belonged to the masons. Drinks were cheap.
freemason wilbur ross, a well-connected banking tycoon with strong ties to the rothschild family has just bid on some watchtower buildings in brooklyn... is the watchtower returning assets to their mother organization?.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/ross_for_jehovah_witnesses_bldgs_komlwtyitfqj3e0ly5fsmk.
also, please view this fairly recent interview with forbes magazine... seems carefully scripted on both ends.... http://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyabenedicto/2011/01/31/wilbur-ross-on-the-economy/.
Jesus Christ! Still thinking. Are you just showing off your picture posting prowess or what! ;)
*the trinity of emoticons shall answer for me*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
If Fluoride was so bad, then we should be seeing millioos of people dying. instead we hvae teeth that our ancestors can only dream of having. Its utterly stupid to make such statements when we can all see the evidence for ourselves.
Peoples teeth have improved REGARDLESS of water fluoridation, trends worldwide show an improvement in dental health because of diet and education, even in areas with NO fluoridation. Much of Europe have got rid of fluoride because they know this. But as usual...we are still being treated like lab rats. Many of the scientific evidence is based on what they used to use...NOT what they use NOW, which is a waste product from the pesticide industry. THAT is not what they used when they introduced fluoride in the water.
And as for millions of people dying...well.. hard to say. Is it the fluoride? Is it the GMO's? Is it the pesticides? Is it the Herbicides? Is it a combination? Cancer rates in the west are going through the roof and the problem is getting worse. Could it possibly have anything to do with how we mess around so much with our food and water? What exactly is wrong with clean water without fluoride? And clean foods without chemicals? Why do people object so strongly to it? I really don't understand.
EVEN IF...(and thats a big if) fluroide was beneficial for teeth....that STILL does not justify mass medication of society. What about old people that may not even have teeth? Why should they be fluoridated? What benefit is it to them? Even at it's supposed MOST efficient use...it is only targeting children in a narrow age range. Talk about overkill. And it is NOT recommended that babies are given fluoride...and yet..look what bottle fed babies are ingesting.
How is this different to mass medicating the population for depression? (which they may yet do if they use the same logic). When only a small percentage of people suffer from it enough to NEED medication? What else do you think they can justifyably mass medicate people against without our conscent.
I can understand the chlorine being used to make sure drinking water is clean. But I hear you Berengaria...I have, on the odd occasion gone to my kitchen tap only to discover cloudy water the reeks of chlorine. There is NO WAY I'm going to drink that. Now if they have someone incompetent at the end that is adding too much chlorine. How do we know that some idiot in charge of fluoride isn't just as incompetent? Do you trust someone else to medicate YOUR child? I don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
and ultimately, who chooses what my water is dosed with?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
That was a quote from the article YOU posted LisaRose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
You don't need to apologize to me for an article you didn't write. I was simply commenting on the article you posted. And the way it was written.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
Fluoridation is required in the United States, because unlike most of Europe the U.S. doesn’t have school dental care, most children do not see a dentist regularly, many American diets are very high in fats and sugars
This from the article concerns me. It says the US don't give their children proper dental care like Europe...and they feed their kids crap.
So to solve this problem, they mass medicate by adding fluoride to the water. And THAT article has the cheek to call us nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
I am sorry if I offended you
You didn't. But if you are going to quote an article...at least quote one that isn't as clearly biased against PEOPLE as that one. It dosen't support your position very well. It just makes the article look ignorant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
And I agree with you WTWizard....the DO and WILL lie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
The biggest problem is that you have no idea how much fluoride you are ingesting or absorbing at any given time and you wouldn't know if that additional fluoride you just got exposed to puts you in the toxic range or not.
That is correct. There is NO WAY to control how much fluoride you are ingesting. If you drink a lot of water you are getting more than someone who doesn't. If you are a baby and drink baby formula...you may be getting more fluoride than a child that may drink more juice than water.
If you eat vegetables watered with fluoridated water...you are getting more fluoride in your diet.
Due to its high toxicity, fluoride has long been used as a pesticide. In the United States, there are currently two fluoride-based pesticides that are allowed to be sprayed on food. These are: cryolite and sulfuryl fluoride.
1) The main way people are exposed to fluoride from the pesticide cryolite is through consumption of grape products, particularly white grapes, grown in the U.S. This is because cryolite use is widespread among U.S. vinyards.
2) According to data from the USDA (2005), the average fluoride levels in grape products are as follows:
3) Many juice drinks that are not labeled as “grape juice” use grape juice as a filler ingredient. The use of cryolite thus contaminates many juices with fluoride.
4) Cryolite is also allowed to be added to the following products (although it is unclear how many producers actually do so, and what the resulting fluoride levels are):
5) The key way to avoid exposure to fluoride from cryolite is to avoid buying non-organic grape products, particularly beverages made out of white grapes.
In 2005, the U.S. EPA granted a request from Dow AgroSciences to use sulfuryl fluoride as a fumigant in food-processing facilities as a means of killing bugs, rodents, and reptiles. Although EPA granted FAN’s request in January 2011 to rescind its approval of Dow’s request, this is currently being challenged by the agribusiness industry. Thus, as it currently stands, sulfuryl fluoride is still being sprayed on food products made in the U.S.
Th e EPA allows sulfuryl fluoride as both a fumigant of food-processing facilities (while food is still on the premises) and as a direct fumigant of food. Both forms of fumigation result in the contamination of food with fluoride. Here’s what you need to know about both:
Fumigation of Food Processing Facilities
1) Structural fumigation is done for the purpose of killing pests in the facility where the food is stored. It usually is performed twice a year in a given facility.
2) Unlike virtually every other western country, the EPA does not require that food processors remove food prior to the fumigation. As a result, any food that is being stored in the facility during a structural fumigation will be contaminated with fluoride.
3) The level of fluoride contamination that EPA allows for wheat flour (125 ppm) and dried eggs (900 ppm) is sufficient to cause symptoms of acute fluoride toxicity (e.g., nausea, vomiting, etc) in children.
4) Although less than 0.1% of wheat flour and dried eggs will be contaminated with sulfuryl fluoride (due to the infrequency of structural fumigations), several hundred, if not thousands, of children will be exposed each years to doses of fluoride from these products that can induce temporary food poisoning-type symptoms. No other country allows this.
5) There are hundreds of other food products that EPA allows to be contaminated with sulfuryl fluoride.
Direct Fumigation of Food
6) The EPA also allows food processors to use sulfuryl fluoride as a direct fumigant of certain foods. This means that food processors can purposely spray sulfuryl fluoride directly onto certain foods.
7) Unlike structural fumigation (which takes place once or twice a year), direct fumigation is a routinely performed procedure. Thus, foods that can be directly fumigated with sulfuryl fluoride will consistently have elevated fluoride levels.
8) According to EPA’s estimates, some of the foods that will be most commonly fumigated are cocoa powder, dried beans, walnuts and dried fruits.
9) EPA estimates that, if the current regulations are not rescinded, 100% of cocoa powder, 100% of dried beans, 99% of walnuts, 69% of dried fruits, 10% of walnuts, 10% of tree nuts, and 3% of rice will be fumigated.
10) When fumigated the average fluoride levels in fumigated food is:
So....why do we need to add fluoride to our water...when it would appear that we get too much already from our diets because of chemical sprays used as pesticides.
